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Karen Hughes: America on Parade - support the troops edition - Sisyphus Shrugged
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Karen Hughes: America on Parade - support the troops edition
everything in moderation
Undersecretary of State Karen P. Hughes 's first foray to make friends in Muslim countries started this week with a stop to see Mohammad Sayed Tantawi , a Sunni spiritual leader of the al-Azhar University, who Hughes reportedly hailed as a respected moderate voice.

"I had a wonderful meeting with him," she told reporters in Egypt. "I thanked him because Al-Azhar under his leadership was among the first . . . religious institutions in the world to condemn the September 11 attacks." Tantawi also has said normalization of ties with Israel was theologically acceptable.

In interviews in August on U.S.-funded Alhurra television and on a Lebanese TV station, Tantawi also condemned suicide attacks, such as "when someone blows himself up in a market, a bus, a car with children, women, and peaceful people, who don't participate in wars."

But suicide bombers against U.S. troops? That appears to be a different matter. "I say that a person who blows himself up among an enemy who came to kill me," Tantawi explained, "and I have no way of defending myself except for blowing myself up amongst this enemy who came to kill me and my countrymen, or to attack what is sacred -- in such a case, whoever blows himself up is a martyr."

Increasingly it seems that the administration defines "moderate" as "willing to have their picture taken with Karen Hughes"

It might be a little expensive, but I'm guessing they can probably get that nice Mr. Chalabi on board here.
ahhhs. -- hmmm?
ailsaek From: ailsaek Date: September 30th, 2005 01:47 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)
OK, color me slow, but suicide bombers against someone you're actively at war with does not seem to me that different from any other attempt to kill or maim people you are at war with. Attacking noncombatants is bad. Attacking combatants is war. What am I missing here?
jmhm From: jmhm Date: September 30th, 2005 02:45 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)
well, see, that would be one view.

Another view would be that our soldiers are there helping the iraqi people grow democracy and they're going to stay until they grow that democracy and help those iraqi people.

That would be the view the administration takes of the matter.

Now, if you're going to keep our soldiers there like ducks in a shooting gallery (and without body or vehicle armor) "helping" the iraqi people, one would think you'd take a dim view of someone who calls them the enemy and announces a religious justification for killing them.

Also makes me wonder what kind of Smart suicide bombs these guys have strapped to them that only kill enemies.
selinakyle47 From: selinakyle47 Date: September 30th, 2005 02:56 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)
Huh. I didn't think it would be this bad, but hey, the Bush administration continues to underwhelm me.
xgray From: xgray Date: September 30th, 2005 04:02 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)
mr. chalabi's the model of moderation. he has no problem taken money from the ol' usa while he's also taking money from the iranians...truly a bridge between east and west.
tomscud From: tomscud Date: September 30th, 2005 04:03 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)
What Tantawi is, is, he's THE establishment Muslim leader in Egypt. Anything he says has been pressed and steamed and cleared and critiqued until there isn't anything that could possibly be controversial in it, any more. (Which means that the abovementioned comment is not remotely controversial, anywhere in the Middle East. D'you think?
jmhm From: jmhm Date: September 30th, 2005 04:20 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)
oh, that's heartwarming, that is.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 30th, 2005 07:21 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)

Suicide Bombers

If the United States would be occupied, where Americans would live in poverty without hope, humiliated daily and treated as second class citizens, no resistence movement would be tolerated, they would have no weapons, what would the Americans do?
jmhm From: jmhm Date: September 30th, 2005 07:42 pm (UTC) (linkie thing)

Re: Suicide Bombers


actually, we saw something much like that in a US city a month ago, and they behaved much better than anyone expected.

I don't - never did - agree with this war, but I also think an awful lot of people who aren't from Iraq are advancing their political agendas by carrying out a guerrilla war in iraq that the iraqi people weren't given much of a choice about, any more than they were given a choice by the US.

and, you know, suicide bombers do have weapons, or they couldn't be suicide bombers.

ahhhs. -- hmmm?